The Fenn Inflection Points: May 18 and November 2, 2017 (Live Stream with Q&A) – Live Chat Included Below


Special thanks to Man in the Barn for volunteering to moderate our chat.

Jimmy Fast​For not being able to hear, Forrest sure came alive and changed the subject when Shiloh said you should see the museum basement

Seannm The “Third Act” so to speak

Michael De​what about the “unauthorized biography with the treasure?

B Cross​AGK: I was surprised Forrest said it was not really raining at Borders as he said Did I understand him correctly that he added that simply as a matter for readers” interest?

Joel Lewicki​ AGK: Do you think his reticence to answer questions is because he is concerned that he will go off script and reveal more than he wants?

Eric Schmidt ​Michael De – that is not available to anyone

Cindy Guess​ AGK: Have you met Shiloh previously and do you think Fenn’s children/grandchildren have had any interest in searching for the treasure.

ashley bergstrom ​AGK: Or do we think Shiloh will keep a presence with searchers going forward?

MR G​ What is with this Kyle guy that has posted a series of new videos about the Treasure being at San Lazaro and some secret book about “Lost Kivas”?

Stephanie Thirtyacre​ Kelly is daughter told me she went on a search. she wouldn’t say where though.

gallant171​ AGK: What kind of clues, if any, do you think are in the new book?

Man In The Barn ​AGK – well said- During the release of the OUAW the FF team started referring to TFTW as a memoir. I always heard it as a scrap book. Do you see that as something to pay attention too?

Michael De ​AGK do you think FF last book will be the Unauthorzed biography”?

OG Slap Slap​ Thanks dog

Eric Schmidt ​AGK – I have read through the book, and was mostly pleased with the various stories… however the one on the spices was like a big question mark? What was the point of that?

MR G​ Toby have you began reading the new book? Opinion?

Seannm ​AGK: Shelly take Toby shirt shopping 🙂

OG Slap Slap​Lmaooooooooooooo

Jimmy Fast ​Lol

jaswinters ​AGK I do believe there is a chest and been on the chase BOTG twice and like Mr. Fenn but after researching him 2+years he does say he is a charleton and story teller + FBI scandal what do u think?

Eric Schmidt​ AGK – Toby the writer’s name is Max Evans

MR G ​AGK-What is with this Kyle guy that has posted a series of videos about the Treasure being at San Lazaro and some secret book about “Lost Kivas”?

Cindy Guess​ AGK: I believe Mr. Fenn’s facial expression said he knew Preston was going to say the new book contains vital clues. If this is true, do you think we should not believe that it does contain clues?

MR G ​AGK-Toby do you think there is anything in the poem that needs to be deciphered according to a technical/scientific approach?

ashley bergstrom​im taking off from my kids!!

Matt​Careful Toby, those ppl will read between the lines. that no he didn’t draw it, but directed the person to, therefore they reinforce their belief there is something there. lol

GhostriderI​ AGK- From what ya’ll know of Mr.Fenn What are some things that would make a place “special”

Eric Schmidt Ghostriderl they have a vlog on that subject

GhostriderI​ Ok Thanks I missed it

Stephanie Thirtyacre​ I don’t know he ever says never. I’d like him to do videos with you guys. Maybe with questions he has time to see.

Cindy Guess ​Stephanie, I think that would be great!

Eric Schmidt​ There are some… I have found at least one I believe

Cindy Guess​ Hi Sis! I know you’re out there!

Tl Mattes​ Hey

Cindy Guess​ Shelley, love your hair!

Michael De​agk can you chase down the use of 2’s in some future vlog?

Stephanie Thirtyacre ​I agree Cindy. she has great hair.

Steve Klein​ AGK.No clues in new book but Preston says thzere is fenn knows there are no new clues but still lets Preston lie about it to sell the book. What’s up with that?

OG Slap Slap ​AGK: In TFTW Forrest mentioned that there’s no swimming where geyser riverlets enter a stream. He has brought up what to do if you find it on NPS land multiple times. Is it a likely possibility?

Matt Hawrysko​ Congratulations!

Tl Mattes​ Toby woo hoo nothing better than Grandbabies!!

jaswinters​ Congrats on the Grand Baby

Eric Schmidt​ Congratulations Toby!

Stephanie Thirtyacre ​what if the no more clues, because someone is close?

Steve Klein ​Ok then grandpa

steve remple​ akg: In your opinion, the subtle hints in ttotc are hints to all the clues in the poem, or just wwwh? or hob? or the blaze? what are your thoughts?? congrats on new grandkids.

GhostriderI​ Congratulations…😃

Michael De​ AGK congrats, a new team member to search with.

Eric Schmidt​ Sounds good!

Eric Schmidt​ Gotta get back out to work! Talk to you next week! Thanks guys.

Jesse Weaver ​I’m the same way. My closet looks like a cartoon character’s.

Mary Green​ sounds good

Mary Green​agk sounds good

Matt ​I believe the FBI case is why he released the book when he did. during the book release, Fenn said he asked Preston to write the book, way back before Preston wrote the Codex.

B Cross​ AGK: Have you ever seriously considered the Santa Cruz Lake area for the treasure?

Mary Green ​agk did you guys get to Q fenn during the b signing

Matt Hawrysko​ AGK Do you differentiate between hints and clues? do you think there may be more hints in the book even though Preston said clues?

Jim Little​ The key word is located in D. Preston Lost City of M.G.

Matt​ AGK, is there any point in which you’ll give up, if you don’t find the chest?

Stephanie Thirtyacre​ biography in chest….hmm difference in bio verses memoir?

fossilman123 ​if only two clues can be found on a map,is it a waist of time to look for “home of brown” on a map or even other clues

Mary Green ​difference in bio verses memoir, i dont think any diff

Bryan Schultz ​AGK how am i gonna spend that much money when i find it?

Jesse Weaver ​AGK How often does Toby use his pirate voice while you’re BOTG?

Mary Green ​used interchangeably

Michael De​Bryan I’ll be glad to help.

Jim Little ​Forrest got caught up being sage, I hope he can recover

Joel Lewicki​ AGK: Great job in all you do! What advice do you have for searchers who may be stuck on their failed solution to the poem?

Tl Mattes​ Another good job everyone 😃 Thanks for the info.

Cindy Guess​ Thanks!

Stephanie Thirtyacre​ he said Susan designed the cover and he didn’t.

Mary Green ​thanks agk

sharpcf73  ​I was curious about the cover

Matt​ what say you Stephanie, is there a point of ending the search?

Stephanie Thirtyacre​ not yet Matt. I’ve been searching since June 1st. only home for about two weeks total.

Mary Green​ Stephanie Thirtyacre have you figed the word that is key

Matt ​just curious how long the dedication would last by long term searchers before it may be slowly put aside.

steve remple​ Good ? Mary. Have you? For a while I thought it was “waters”

Stephanie Thirtyacre​ I do have a word that’s key. hope it’s correct, but you never know. how about you?

Mary Green ​me too thought waters, now ?

Mary Green​ been working with tarry

steve remple​ I’m leaning toward Brown now…. subject to change

Stephanie Thirtyacre ​mine isn’t in poem.

Matt ​Would you be surprised if there isn’t a word that unlocks anything. but it’s just another term to focus back on the first clue?

steve remple​ Stephanie, hmmm?

steve remple​ not playing by the rules. lol

Mary Green​ fenn said it was in poem didnt he

steve remple ​I believe so

Matt​ visit how the FBI case was dismissed, key word used was discovered. Fenn said they didn’t know, therefore it was dismissed

Stephanie Thirtyacre ​I don’t believe he said it was in the poem. maybe I’m wrong…but not aware he said anything like that.

steve remple​ I’ll look into that Matt. I’m not sure what that’s about.

steve remple ​Stephanie are you currently looking or done for the season

Matt​ go tarryscant, search key word, there is two entries

Stephanie Thirtyacre​ currently

Mary Green​ something like people are in tight focus on a word that is key, so may get solved soon

steve remple​ That’s it Mary

Stephanie Thirtyacre​ bye all. thanks Toby and Shelley.

steve remple​ see ya. happy hhunting

Mary Green​ bye

Mary Green​ was paraphrasing, i think its over at MW

steve remple​ but forrest insists searchers have nothing if they don’t get the first clue correct. Makes me think key word is in first clue?

4 thoughts on “The Fenn Inflection Points: May 18 and November 2, 2017 (Live Stream with Q&A) – Live Chat Included Below

  1. Hi Toby,

    You said back in September that according to Forrest someone may be getting close to the T.C?

    I was wondering if you have heard anymore about this since then?


  2. I think the poem must have a specific starting point, like a road intersection, coordinates, a specific place, anything that not necesary take you direct to the treasure but to the starting point.
    I have two question for you.

    1. It is true that FF said about deciphering, codes, etc is worthless?
    2. I found once ( i cant find it anymore) an email answer from FF to a women about poetry. He said knowing about poetry helps to solve the poem. Do you know if is true FF said that.

    please, send me greetings in the next video.

    Iair Montemayor
    McAllen TX.


    • Fenn, to the best of my knowledge, has never specifically said that. He generalized on the topic of complicated interpretations of the poem, of which “ciphers” was one. I have never heard or read that Fenn said that knowing poetry helps to solve the poem.

      We send shout out’s to the people who are watching our live stream…so, you’ll have to be there an ask a good question.

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