Why We Have Decided to Ignore All But Two Lines in Forrest Fenn’s Treasure Poem


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OUR opinions drive OUR search for said treasure, and should not be interpreted as suggestions, directions or recommendations to any other person with an interest in the search for said treasure.

Shelley Carney & Toby Younis
A Gypsy’s Kiss


Canyon down.

Yes. You read that right.

Here are the lines we choose NOT to ignore:

  1. Begin it where warm waters halt and
  2. Take it in the canyon down,

We figure the little girl in India could get that far on her map. (If you don’t know the little girl in India, go to TarryScant.com and type “little girl in india” in the search bar. You’ll learn a couple of new things about the search.)

In spite of Fenn’s variety of warnings that we ignore the poem at our own peril, we’re going to ignore most of the poem at our own peril.

What have we got to lose?

As recently as July 31, 2018, Fenn has said that the first clue is “Begin it where warm waters halt.” So, let’s toss out the entire first stanza. He’s also said there are nine clues in the poem and that they are continuous, one after another. One could easily conclude that the last clue is “Look quickly down, your quest to cease.”

That means we can toss out the last two lines of the fourth stanza, and the fifth and sixth stanzas in their entirety.

That gets us down to:

Begin it where warm waters halt
And take it in the canyon down,
Not far, but too far to walk.
Put in below the home of Brown.

From there it’s no place for the meek,
The end is ever drawing nigh;
There’ll be no paddle up your creek,
Just heavy loads and water high.

If you’ve been wise and found the blaze,
Look quickly down, your quest to cease,

Honestly, we’re not even certain “Look quickly down, your quest to cease,” is a clue. But, we’ll allow it to remain anyway.

In several recent articles in a variety of publications, Fenn has estimated that there are 350,000 searchers looking for the treasure.

We think that number is exaggerated. But, let’s use it, and average it over the eight years the search has been in progress, and round it to 40,000 searchers at any given point in time. Let’s further say that each of them spends an average of 2 hours a week over an entire year, either researching the treasure, or searching for it. That’s 40,000 x 2 x 52 x 8, or 33,280,000 man hours working on the problem. That translates to about 16,000 man years. That, to me, seems like a lot of effort for zero in the way of results.

The new plan.

Therefore, we’re going to ignore the 22 lines in the poem that aren’t “Begin it where warm waters halt, And take it in the canyon down,” mostly because that’s what the little girl in India can figure out, and then, according to Fenn, she has to be boots on the ground.

We also believe that the treasure is within 750 feet of the intersection of warm waters halting and canyon downing.

So, we’re going to head down that canyon, ignoring Brown’s home, Meek’s place, Nigh’s end, Paddless creek, and all the rest of the completely undecipherable clues. And, then, we’re going to look around until we stumble on that treasure chest.

If you’ve got a better idea, (and by better, I mean something other than another 16,000 man years trying to figure out the nine clues) – send us an email.

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4 thoughts on “Why We Have Decided to Ignore All But Two Lines in Forrest Fenn’s Treasure Poem

  1. Thank you Toby for coming back on line after having to go back to work for awhile. I got burned out on TTOTC and put it aside for a couple of years. Thanks to you and your co-partner I’m back in too. I agree with you in regards to which stanzas have clues and witch do not. I think that all the 9 clues are in stanzas 2 & 3 because the first line in #4 “If you’ve been wise and found the blaze”,is nothing more than referencing what you have already found in #3 (the blaze). “Look quickly down, your quest to cease” and the rest of this stanza are simple instructions on what to do after finding the blaze.
    If all 9 clues are in stanzas 2&3, then how do we get 9 clues out of 8 lines? I think I heard FF say once that there are clues within clues. Is this true or M I getting a bad case of CRS?

    • Jim…welcome back! In our case two things have shrunk since the beginning of the question – the size of our search area, and the number of useful clues. I have nothing that indicates Fenn ever said there were clues within clues, but like you, I’m CRS challenged – so I can’t guarantee it. Good luck in your search.

  2. Found this on Dal`s site:

    Dal, I am sure you remember that the little girl from India was the lark of Jenny Kile, who inserted it into a question she asked me. It might just as well have been a boy from Waxahatchee, where my father was born, or an Arab kid from Marrakech, a city that Winston Churchill said was the most beautiful place in the world. He was an excellent artist and I once sold his oil painting of that city. We are getting a lot of mileage from that little girl from India, doncha think? –Forrest Fenn

  3. In Re; If you’ve got a better idea, (and by better, I mean something other than another 16,000 man years trying to figure out the nine clues) – send us an email.

    Hello I listen, watch Your show and U- Tube videos often to see what others are doing Wrong. lol
    I am hoping someone finds the chest before I prepare for our trip only so we can know where it was and if My solve was right as people keep going by My solve as well repeatedly, some come close as too within 5 miles from a main roadway and more than likely people fish this spot frequently
    I have read his books 5 times TTOTC and 2nd run on TFTW poem memorized, several maps topo and a plethora of info found online going back 150+ yrs
    I don’t sleep but 3- 5 hours a night, Mind constantly running Multiple hobbies More than 5..
    I have a WWWH, Canyon Down, not far but too far too walk.
    My solve is 6.1 to 7 miles, Home of Brown, No place for the meek, The end is ever drawing nigh, no paddle up your Creek, Heavy loads and water high, and at this juncture I am looking for the Blaze after traveling My Canyon 1.2 to 1.5 miles
    Anyway The Canyon I have selected has the 9 clues within the area of roughly 9 mile canyon It is a place Mr. Fenn could park his Sedan , walk to site, place chest ,Sit relax eat his sandwich on a hill under a pine tree watching the stream, animals see Mnts, Trees and a grand View of the Canyon before him between 5000 and under 10200 ft. chest or items in chest will most likely be wet. Also I believe the 1st and last 2 Stanzas are in reference to the location of his Favorite hiding spot for which We are all looking for on the Map.

    I believe We all have our solve locations picked out. I had several, now 1. I have Followed FF’s advice and only used info obtained from him in interviews to determine My solve As well as his books TTOTC And TFTW. I believe in Summer 2019 when Family and I go west to visit Our solve spot I will know for Certain If I a correct.
    1 valley with all Clues , Hints from book help solidify Clues in Poem almost too Perfectly. My only Problem is determining which Blaze I am looking for. But am sure I will find it when It shows itself, Ahaaa moment.

    My solve took 3+ yrs to get all info If I am correct. Wife, Son Several Friends have been shown My Solve up to a certain point and all believe It fits.
    I have sent FF my solve also And I am not expecting a reply and am fine with that.
    I am glad, thankful too have lived during the same time as Mr. Fenn. hope He lives to be 120

    Sorry this is so long but I reality it should be twice its length with the info I am using for solve..
    Hope You and Toby Have a wonderful time searching and keep on with the programming, Just tell Toby to stop with making people think he is kinda throwing in the towel , which he is not, but some think he has so to speak

    From a Fellow searcher
    Catch you on the flip side of life…what a ride it has been so far
    Robert {aka} Bob

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