The Distance Between Clue 1 and 9 in Fenn’s Treasure Poem Can Be Measured in Feet

Effectively, it boils down to a matter of time and money.

If your search radius – that is: the distance between your Forrest Fenn Treasure Clue Number 1 and Clue 9 – is 500 feet, then your search area is .028 square miles, roughly 1/4 square mile or approximately 13.5 football fields¹.

If, on the other hand, your search radius is 10 miles, then your search area is a little over 314 square miles, or approximately 152,427 football fields.

But, let’s say you’re headed in a single direction inside your search radius – that is, you’re going to travel in, effectively, a straight line from clue 1 to 9. Then, in the case of your 500 foot search radius, you’ve reduced the problem to approximately 1.66 football fields. And, in the case of your 10 mile search radius, you’ve reduced the problem to approximately 176 football fields.

Good luck in your search.

¹Excluding end zones.

What to do if you just found out about Forrest Fenn’s treasure: READ THIS FIRST!

Forrest Fenn’s treasure is in an ornate, Romanesque box that might be filled with gold nuggets, gold coins and other gems.

You’re here because you just read an article or saw a television program or a YouTube video about the treasure Forrest Fenn hid somewhere in the mountains north of Santa Fe. So, we’re going to save you a treasure chest full of time, effort, frustration and money.

Before you do anything else, do exactly the following:

  1. Click on the “Fenn’s Poem” link above. Read the poem at least five times. Read the text version of the poem at least five times. Then watch the playlist of videos we’ve prepared for you. Start your Fenn Treasure Notebook. Do not proceed to the next step until you’ve completed this one.
  2. Click on the “Fenn Interviews” link above. These are the top 3 Fenn interviews. We recorded two of them. Watch them at least 3 times each. Make notes. Most important: get to know Forrest Fenn. He has a plan, and you finding the treasure is part of it. Do not proceed to the next step until you’ve completed this one. Oh, and PS: Yes, the treasure is still out there.
  3. Listen to this audio track. It’s an interview with Forrest Fenn conducted by NZ Radio in 2013. About the middle of the interview, Fenn tells us, probably in a slip, that the first clue is “Begin it where warm waters halt.” Don’t ignore him, and don’t let anybody try to talk you out of believing it. Make more notes.
  4. Subscribe to our blog: We update it several times a week with articles, interviews, commentary and videos.
  5. Subscribe to our YouTube channel: We add several videos a week to our portfolio of over 220 Fenn-treasure-related videos.
  6. Visit the Fenn treasure forums, but do so for entertainment value only. It’s nuts in there. If you don’t believe us, try posting something – anything – and watch what happens.
  7. Read this blog post. It tells you exactly what to do when you find the treasure. Notes!
  8. Optional: Buy Fenn’s first memoir, “The Thrill of the Chase.” You can order a copy from the Collected Works Bookstore in Santa Fe for the original price of $35 plus shipping.
  9. Plan and go out on your first recon. You will discover at least two things: a. your solution was crazy wrong, and b. the problem is much bigger than you imagined. No worries. It happens to everybody. Oh, and – take pictures! Send them to us! We share them with the community on our YouTube channel.

You are now, officially, one of the (estimated by Fenn) 350,000 members of the “I don’t know where the hell it is either!” Fenn Treasure Hunters Club.

But, don’t let that discourage you. Sooner or later, someone is going to find it, and it might as well be you!

Good luck,

Shelley Carney and Toby Younis

Is Forrest Fenn Immortal? (Edited)

Photo by Anson Stevens-Bollen, The Santa Fe Reporter

Spoiler alert. Stop reading now if you don’t want to read the truth.

No – he’s not. He’s as mortal as the rest of us. Someday, we will all die.

Which made his response to a question from The Santa Fe Reporter Editor, Julie Ann Grimm¹, very curious.

She asked Fenn, “Are you sure no one has found it?”

He replied, “Don’t ask me how, but I am sure.”

An intelligence analyst would see the phrase “Don’t ask me how…” as an indication that the subject does not know how – and could not answer the question if, indeed, asked.

In other words, we believe that, unless the finder of Fenn’s treasure informs Fenn (or anyone else, for that matter) that they have recovered the treasure he hid, Fenn, like the rest of us, will never know.

Especially, if the treasure is recovered after Fenn has shuffled off this mortal coil. Because, as are we all, Fenn is not immortal.

And, then, it becomes irrelevant.

It also seems to us as if Fenn has come around to our way of thinking.

Grimm asks, “What do you plan to do when someone finds the treasure? Are you going to go out and meet them?”

Fenn says, “I am ambivalent about that. I have argued that with myself for a number of years. The fact is, it depends on the individual. I have got a feeling that the person that finds it is not going to tell anybody. There are a lot of problems if somebody knows that you’ve found a treasure chest.”

We agree with Fenn. Or, perhaps, Fenn agrees with us:

  1. If you recover the treasure, inform the media (providing them photographic evidence of your claim), but do so anonymously.
  2. Put the treasure in a safe place, known only to you, and do nothing further for at least 90 days. If you have the patience, do nothing until Fenn has passed.
  3. Never, ever reveal the location of the find to anyone, including members of your family. If asked, your response is “Where Fenn hid it.” If asked by someone in authority, refuse to answer, and if necessary, invoke your Fifth Amendment right that protects you from self-incrimination. 
  4. After 90 days, contact a tax attorney. Tell them the story, including your desire to maintain your anonymity.
  5. Liquidate the treasure in its entirety as soon as possible.
  6. Go, quietly, on with the rest of your life.

Anyone who tries to convince you there is some benefit to revealing yourself as the finder has no idea what they are talking about. You don’t get paid for an appearance on “Ellen.” You get trouble. The likelihood there are multi-million dollar book or movie deals waiting for Joe and/or Jane Schmoe who, on their last family vacation, stumbled on a treasure planted by an eccentric old, white guy, beating 350,000 other searchers to the quest, is, well – slim to none.

Anyone who tries to convince you “…you owe it to us…” to reveal the location of the find is, well – after a piece of what is now your property.

Ignore them.

Now, get out there and find that treasure before the summer’s end.

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¹ The Legend of Fenn’s Gold, Forrest Fenn opens up about history, hoaxes and his hidden treasure, Julie Ann Grimm, June 13, 2018, The Santa Fe Reporter






Latest Article on Forrest Fenn and His Treasure

Note: KPro posted this response from Fenn on Hint of Riches earlier this afternoon. Fenn was asked what he thought of the article. His response:

Comment from Fenn regarding the article, after the fact: “The interview was last week, and it’s a weekly paper. There were some misquotes and some made-up quotes, but overall I thought it was a good story. When she quoted me accurately she didn’t speak my language. F”

Byline: Julie Ann Grimm, Santa Fe Reporter, June 13, 2018

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Forrest Fenn Treasure Poem Wordcloud

1958 Yellowstone Park Map

Our viewer and friend, Jonothan Jones, of the UK, has very kindly provided us a high resolution version of the 1958 Yellowstone Park Map inside the pamphlet he had previously shared. Remember to thank him if you see him in chat on one of our live streams. For a different take on the hunt for the treasure Forrest Fenn hid somewhere in the mountains north of Santa Fe, join the conversation at

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1958 Yellowstone Park Map – High Resolution

El Rio del Tesoro

“El Rio del Tesoro” in Spanish translates to “The River of the Treasure” in English. Nothing particularly to do with the treasure Forrest Fenn hid somewhere in the mountains north of Santa Fe, just some drone footage from our last recon.  We hope this brings back some memories of your searches for the treasure.

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Grizzly Encounters in Yellowstone Park

This morning, I received this letter, and some photos, from one of our viewers. It described his experiences with bears during a recent Fenn Treasure recon to Yellowstone National Park. He agreed to let me share the information with you. Reminder: on this Wednesday evening’s panel, we’ve invited bear expert, Dr. Tom Smith. It’s a stream with live chat, so Dr. Smith can answer your bear-related questions. Subscribe here to be notified of the start of the session.

Hi Toby,

Just wanted to pass along a strong warning that you can relay to you viewers. I was in the Yellowstone area on multiple occasions over the last few weeks. I had two grizzly encounters, first one being no big deal. A male about 6-7 hundred feet up a hill, I saw him before he saw me. I moved a little closer to a group of trees before he looked up at me. Since I search alone I always hike with a cowbell, I’m positive it saved my ass last year on Ramshorn Peak when it woke a grizzly that must have been napping in a ravine that I was heading to. So I rang my bell at it and took off up the hill.

This last Saturday I was coming down a trail by a creek (to my left) with a hill on my right side. I had been up the trail two miles and was coming out and thought I was fairly clear of bear area, maybe a third of a mile from the trail head and road. Scanned up the hill and there was a 5-6 hundred pound grizzly giving me the stink eye because I was between him and the creek. When I later measured it on Google Maps it put him at about 125 feet, I quickly turned towards him and started side stepping to get on the road side of him. I instinctively shook my cowbell at him twice, which didn’t faze him a bit as he was sizing me up as friend, food or foe. I was thinking spray or weapon, given that he was up hill and could have been on me in seconds I pulled my 10mm (edit. semi-automatic handgun). Just about that time he took a step down off the ridge towards the trail. It was going to be to close if he made the trail before I could get some more distance and being that he showed no fear of me whatsoever. I discharged a warning shot in the air. He turned and quartered away from me back over the ridge. I could tell he was still coming down towards the trail, but that bought me enough time to get down the trail and behind a dead fall. Luckily he did not pursue me and I moved back out about 50 to 75 feet and watched his profile as moved towards the creek.

Whew, to close for my comfort. Need to find a buddy or partner for the search. My advice, big bell, use it often especially on closed in trails, get use to it. Bear spray, side arm or both, if you pack a weapon be trained with it. I think the 10mm Glock is a good choice because the clip is 15 rounds and I always carry a spare. Know your sign and the area your in, Here are a few pic’s you can share with your viewers.


Chris Baxter
Kings Valley, OR

Grizzly Scat

Grizzly Track

A Gypsy’s Kiss on YouTube

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